O Rose, Thou Art Sick.

This has been a troubling week for many Catholics. It is not hard to hear the rumbling of the secular cannons in the distance, as those in favor of iconoclastic and violent means of change set their sights on the Church, toppling images of St. Junipero Serra, threatening to take the Cathedral in St. Louis, and, at the height of the rioting, coyly suggesting that:
“All murals and stained glass windows of white Jesus, his European mother and their white friends should come down.
They are a gross form white supremacy.
Created as tools of oppression.
Racist propaganda.
They should all come down.”
Activist Shaun King
This necessarily brings uncertainty and trepidation as those familiar with history prepare for the clashes we have seen play out before.
Locally, if we expected words of comfort and exhortations to courage, we were destined for disappointment. The events of the week also revealed once again that the petty gods of liability management and optics continue to have their fervent votives among our leadership.
One of our readers summarized pithily:
What we’re fighting for now is every priest’s solemn duty to have the FREEDOM TO PREACH: To preach the truth in and out of season! And this extends way beyond Father Rothrock’s situation. This goes straight to the bureaucratic, phony-evangelistic, corporate nerve-center of Uniting in Heart and Divine Renovation that is about to be unleashed on our diocese: treating our priests as if they never went to seminary, never learned anything, and haven’t picked up any wisdom of their own since their ordinations. Nope! Our priests will be given pre-packaged “messages” that must be delivered, per corporate instructions, with as much manufactured sincerity and passion that they can muster or there will be hell to pay back at headquarters.
-Layperson
It becomes more and more obvious that planning, formation, and directives from the diocese are built upon control, distrust, and micromanagement, a sad parody of the motherhood the Church is meant to embody.
This is not how the Church exists. It is not how it thrives. It is not how it grows. It is not how souls are saved. It is not what we “sign up for” when we profess our Faith “in word and sacrament.”
The metaphor of the nerve center is an apt one. Can the head hate and fear the body’s movements and functions, and the organism yet remain healthy? One is reminded of the struggles of persons with anorexia, who cannot hear the groaning of their own organs, nor see the wasting of their flesh, as their minds obsess ritualistically over every morsel they must consume.
We asked you to pray with us and to offer sacrifices, and we renew that call.
However, as we speak to other Catholics, seeing their just needs of genuine pastoral care and a healthy environment in which their children may experience the Faith, we cannot see that quietly riding out the coming storm will suffice. The diocese is poised to be wounded, and an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Let us make an unpopular observation: The Church is not and never has been merely synonymous with the hierarchy.
As Princeton research scholar Bronwen McShea writes:
We need a change of attitude. Laypersons and even clergymen under episcopal authority need not confuse filial deference to bishops and popes with uncritical, docile acceptance of all the forms of power the hierarchy currently wields. Some of these powers are new in the history of the Church and are concentrated by happenstance in the hands of the hierarchy, due to the historical conditions of the Church’s self-preserving self-extrication from modern political regimes.
Faithful and informed Catholics have filial duties to their mother—the Church herself—not only to their clerical fathers. They should call attention to problems and propose solutions, mindful that by virtue of holy baptism and confirmation, they have been gifted by the Holy Spirit not only with piety and fear of the Lord, but also with wisdom, understanding, knowledge, counsel, and fortitude.
. . . Catholics today need not dream of restoring Christendom and its tightly woven fabric of clerical and secular rule. But perhaps the sexual abuse crisis serves to remind us that it was traditionally the duty and right of the laity to protect the physical, temporal body of the Church—to safeguard her orphans, widows, and all manner of persons endangered by malignant forces prowling about within the corpus Christianum, as well as outside of her.
Today, the safety and well-being of the Christian people’s children and young clergymen are in question. Laypersons may be called at this hour to assert their traditional rights within the Church as a whole, in order to secure the common good of our spiritual communion. We will need to pursue that duty in creative ways suited to present-day conditions. And we should anticipate—with the sober realism that the Church’s messy history engenders—that more than one exalted churchman will oppose worthy reforms with this or that implement from his modern stockpile of ecclesial power.
For those who will read this as a a denial of the the hierarchy’s authority, let us be clear in saying this is not so. What Christ gave us as a principle of unity and legitimate governance, an archetype and participation of Himself, we accept and indeed revere. However, the detritus of clericalism that has built up around that institution should be seen for what it is, and what McShea calls the “uncritical, docile acceptance” would be better replaced with self-sacrificial truth telling for the good of all, including that of the Catholic bishops themselves.
Further, where that office is turned against itself in some way, and therefore against the good of the Church as a whole, the Faithful must defend. They must find within themselves the threefold office of priest, prophet and king, because it was shared with them by Christ’s own will and design through the sacraments. It is not for decoration, an ornamental weapon merely to be cooed about in the prayer group and bible study. It is for use.
It is very clear-cut and easy to see this duty in those situations involving the McCarricks of the world. The layman crying out with a thousand tongues is nothing more than just.
But the scourge of pedophilia is not the only, or even the primary, way in which the Christian people can be abused. It is simply one dark facet of a frankly sinful worldview, where the Faithful are inanimate pieces to jumble and reassemble as one wishes–squeezing for money here, coolly shuttering a community or taking away its pious traditions there. Or where they are peons, the low-ranking soldiers who must march to whatever beat is drummed–even if the path leads them further from Christ, or over a precipice. It was not for this purpose that Christ shared His authority.
Three points to consider:
The Governing Office of A Bishop:
The Good Shepherd ought to be the model and “form” of the bishop’s pastoral office. Conscious of his own weaknesses, “the bishop . . . can have compassion for those who are ignorant and erring. He should not refuse to listen to his subjects whose welfare he promotes as of his very own children. . . . The faithful . . . should be closely attached to the bishop as the Church is to Jesus Christ, and as Jesus Christ is to the Father”
CCC 896
Recall the secretive process of the UiH plan, which seemingly intends the dissolution of parishes but won’t say so truthfully. The silencing of the plan’s critics by threat of firing and demotion, and the sly implication that concerned individuals were working against “what the Holy Spirit is leading us to.” The requirement, decided without genuine dialogue with the priests and people, created under a false pretense of listening, that all parishes will be adapting all their practices to a new, prescribed model. The uprooting of almost all clergy to make the demolition easier, and in many cases, to place it in the hands of the more compliant, while sifting out and rewiring those who stubbornly remained concerned. The money trail that leads to the diocese’s collaboration with outside bodies that decide what our parishes should be, and walk away with a pocketful of cash.
Have you formed the impression that our current leadership perceives us with the loving eye of a father looking upon his own children? Listens to our needs for our parishes? Has trust been built such that we can be “closely attached to the bishop as Church is to Jesus Christ?” Or do you think that something has gone wrong in what should be a deeply sacred bond? If so, is the blame all on the side of the laity?
The Sanctifying Office of A Bishop:
The bishop is “the steward of the grace of the supreme priesthood,” especially in the Eucharist which he offers personally or whose offering he assures through the priests, his co-workers. The Eucharist is the center of the life of the particular Church. The bishop and priests sanctify the Church by their prayer and work, by their ministry of the word and of the sacraments.
CCC 893
This weekend, we entered the third phase of COVID re-opening. Diocesan directives held church gathering capacity to 50%, yet gave us a large reduction in the number of Masses able to be offered. One need not be much of a mathematician to observe that in practical terms, in many places, this meant that up to half of our fellow Catholics were effectively denied participation in the Mass and the reception of the Eucharist this weekend. Again. After months of no sacramental life.
What remedy has been offered for this from the diocese? Is “pastoral care” now reducible to just watching stuff on YouTube and wishing you were there? Trying, as the diocese advised in an earlier COVID response phase, to make a perfect Act of Contrition for your sins, because they weren’t going to let you have absolution?
Is this what we have to look forward to from now on? Do you, readers, believe that the diocese’s current approach, and that displayed throughout the whole COVID crisis, acknowledges the centrality of the Eucharist “in the life of the particular Church”? Or is something else occupying that place of centrality? And with a diocesan plan in which the Holy Eucharist was added as an afterthought, it is difficult to imagine things getting better.
The Teaching Office of A Bishop:
Bishops, with priests as co-workers, have as their first task “to preach the Gospel of God to all men,” in keeping with the Lord’s command. They are “heralds of faith, who draw new disciples to Christ; they are authentic teachers” of the apostolic faith “endowed with the authority of Christ.”
CCC 888
And finally, we now find ourselves confronted with the events in Carmel surrounding the treatment of Fr. Theodore Rothrock, which many now view as a debacle. This involved some of the strictest penalties an ordinary can impose upon a priest being applied to Fr. Rothrock, in order to comply with demands of a small activist group who celebrated his downfall and screamed for more. Regardless of where one stands on the matter of Fr. Rothrock’s tone or terms, it is not difficult to see that the application of this most heavy penalty created the distinct impression of bending the Church’s teaching to the angry mobs of the world, and also fired a warning shot to all other priests of the diocese, in case they preach on uncomfortable topics.
Arguably, this has opened the door for future actions of a similar kind. Perhaps our priests had best stay mum on things like gender ideology, lest the LGBTQ groups come marching in with their deadly phalanx of rainbow flags. Perhaps we should let the whole “abortion is murder” thing slide, since hordes of angry, bare-breasted feminists might descend with their fearsome coat hangers and malevolent pink hats.
And should a priest or deacon decide the risk to natural and revealed Truth and/or the souls of mankind justifies preaching upon the unpopular, will they first have to avoid the eyes of the the new diocesan Homily Censors and Priest Watchers, and then the danger of the bishop’s own willingness to deliver their heads upon a silver platter to the Social Justice Salomes of the day?
The bishop is our chief teacher and shepherd in this diocese. Is the Faith being “heralded” and protected in a manner consistent with this office, “in season and out of season”? Was the truth taught clearly this week by the words and deeds in Carmel?
“If any man would come after Me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow Me.”
We’ve received emails requesting help and advice, asking whether protests should take place or letters be written. Red Wolf cannot tell you how to act as this must be discerned within yourself, but we can remind you that each of us shares the burden of the good of the Church. And it is a burden carried willingly out of love. You each can be assured of our prayers.
Weigh and consider these matters yourself. Decide if you think all is well in the diocese of Lafayette-in-Indiana, or if we are indeed in a time of crisis and growing alienation from our leadership. Consult your consciences and speak to one another. Be angry, if you need to, as St. Paul advises, but do not sin. Pray for yourself and your bishop, and then take up your cross. Let us not offer ourselves the false consolation that it is “someone else’s job.”
Do you have ideas or suggestions to help strengthen our Faith and community and rise to meet the difficulties we face? Share below.
85 Replies to “O Rose, Thou Art Sick.”
Looks like another good priest is getting Rothrocked:
https://www.facebook.com/DivineChildParish
Why do dissident and heretical priests never get shut down in this fashion?
Haven’t you heard the new woke commandment from our democrat socialist overlords: “Thou Shall Not Give Offence”?
Most of our bishops are down with this (just ask Fr. Rothrock, if you can find him) and its been polluting the minds of seminarians for generations now. This is mostly due to a complete loss of faith and an unwillingness to leave the clerical state on their own, because getting a job and supporting yourself in order to publicly become the socialist activists they actually are requires more work than being “taken care of” by the church. This is why draining the bad actors in the Church of their money is the only way to get rid of them (short of a supernatural intervention). A poor church will become a holier church. And holiness is all that matters in the end. Trust me, the moment faithless priests and bishops have to get secular jobs to support themselves they will leave the church faster than you can say “pastoral”.
Oh, and on that note, whenever you hear one of them use the word “pastoral”, replace it with the word “unfaithful” and you’ll have arrived at the truth of things (as hard as it may be to bear). It works every time.
Another worthy cause to send your tithing to would be Father Nagle at St. John the Evangalist Cathedral in Indianapolis. During the BLM riots , he stood out front of the church with a cross and rosary and courageously stood up to the rioters preventing them from breaking the stain glass windows in the church. I am going to donate to their building maintenance fund to deter any costs created by damages by the rioters!
Good idea! I was also wondering if people could make a private scholarship fund to help with kids CCD for families in need, something like that?
With all the firestorms in the Diocese-in-Lafayette-in-IN and the complete break of trust and love between myself and the Bishop, it gives me real hope in the Church to hear stories about this. Thank you, Robert.
Bravo!! i applaud every word! Thank you! We are truly seeing the veil being lifted or “the curtain being drawn” like in the final scene of the Wizard of Oz. I was able to participate in the prayer event on Sunday and i have to say that the courageous witness that the men demonstrated at the beginning of the day and during the final 3pm stand was truly spectacular! I have no words to describe how much grace flowed from their leadership and how it blessed the day. They led with strength, truth, and courage in a way that only men can. Father Ted would have been proud! While bishop may be trembling behind the curtain with a spirit of fear and control, we have anointed men being raised up to lead us. This is critical, especially in the days ahead!
I am so grateful to the Red Wolf for this- his most thoughtful and hard-hitting article yet. Thank you, RW, for the diligent work on our behalf. But, please know that we are praying for you and for each other. There are a lot of good things coming out of this website. But unity among the laity (in a way I haven’t felt for years) has got to be towards the top of the list!!
There is a Marian procession being planned on Aug. 15, the Feast of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin.
It will start at 12 noon at the Cathedral, processing to the chancery while reciting prayers, and singing chants and hymns. Please join us in this prayerful occasion for our suffering priests and for God’s will to prevail in the sad situations occurring in our diocese. Let us fill the streets!! God bless one and all!
Contact: lori210j3@gmail.com
Thank you, this is good to know. Please keep us updated.
‘I do not speak rashly, but as I feel and think. I do not think that many bishops are saved, but that those who perish are far more numerous.’ – St. John Chrysostom, Doctor and Father of the Church
‘Look higher still, and see the prelates of the Holy Church, pastors who have the charge of souls. Is the number of those who are saved among them greater than the number of those who are damned? Listen to Cantimpre; he will relate an event to you, and you may draw the conclusions. There was a synod being held in Paris, and a great number of prelates and pastors who had the charge of souls were in attendance; the king and princes also came to add luster to that assembly by their presence. A famous preacher was invited to preach. While he was preparing his sermon, a horrible demon appeared to him and said, “Lay your books aside. If you want to give a sermon that will be useful to these princes and prelates, content yourself with telling them on our part, ‘We, the princes of darkness, thank you, princes, prelates, and pastors of souls, that due to your negligence, the greater number of the faithful are damned; also, we are saving a reward for you for this favor, when you shall be with us in Hell.”‘
St. Leonard of Port Maurice
Lay Faithful, continue applying pressure for the sake of holiness among the clerics and the glory of God! Through prayers, penance, and direct requests, perhaps the Bishop will truly convert and amend his ways.
Canon Law mandates such action as we see here (see sections 2 & 3):
Can. 212 §1. Conscious of their own responsibility, the Christian faithful are bound to follow with Christian obedience those things which the sacred pastors, inasmuch as they represent Christ, declare as teachers of the faith or establish as rulers of the Church.
§2. The Christian faithful are free to make known to the pastors of the Church their needs, especially spiritual ones, and their desires.
§3. According to the knowledge, competence, and prestige which they possess, they have the right and even at times the duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church and to make their opinion known to the rest of the Christian faithful, without prejudice to the integrity of faith and morals, with reverence toward their pastors, and attentive to common advantage and the dignity of persons.”
Prayerfully consider these recent words of Bishop Robert Barron:
“Friends, Catholics must stop tearing each other apart online. We should be outraged by those who send virulent comments to one another, preventing actually fruitful evangelical conversation.
Calumny, the mean-spirited accusation of another person, is a violation of both charity & justice.
Who could possibly blame a non-believer for thinking, “I don’t want any part of that group” if they see how Catholics engage each other on social media? Join me in standing against this.”
Think of what an effect the outright attack on the Bishop is going to have on the faithful of the diocese. As a traditional, orthodox Catholic, I cringe when I read posts attacking the Bishop for all the *hypothetical* things that have not happened & may never happen under UinH.
Are we charitable toward our Bishop? Are we engaging in the calumny that Bishop Barron warns against when we speak of him?
Do we want to bear the responsibility of destroying the faith of so many the diocese is seemingly trying to ignite through evangelization?
Trying to stop UinH is not going to prevent any pastor from being moved at some point.
Professional work places require continuing education which includes ongoing spiritual formation of priests. Should their studies end with graduation from the seminary? Every priest I’ve ever met is actively doing spiritual reading, attending retreats & workshops/conferences. Yes, even CEOs attend continuing education conferences.
How many of us can truly spend $40,000-$50,000 (or possibly more) to educate each seminarian? Giving him $20 or even a couple thousand dollars may make us feel better but that’s not going to fund his education.
UinH appears to be working to get in front of the problem of the decreasing numbers of priests, & is focusing on saving our Churches, & promoting evangelizing as Christ commissioned us to do.
Attacking our diocese on social media will only worsen the perception of the Church as a whole- giving more people a reason to turn away from it. This makes survival of our Church less likely.
It makes no sense that UinH is about closing parishes. The diocese could certainly do that without undertaking UinH. Why would the diocese sabotage itself when they could just close the churches in the first place? My take away from UinH is in revitalizing available resources & adding vibrancy through evangelization.
If you truly believe UinH will fail, why not let it be implemented & see what happens? Pray for it to succeed. Or would you rather close down the diocese on your own by refusing to tithe?
Maybe we do need to each identify ourselves & our parish, so when we fail to tithe, & our Churches lose priests, employees, ministries & are forced to close- we can be congratulated for the result of our boycott.
Before jumping to conclusions like the media likes to do, let’s continue to pray for Fr. Rothrock & the Bishop. Let’s pray this is a time of discernment for both of them. Let’s be better than the sound-bite, media feeding frenzy crowd. We should definitely let the Bishop know of our support for Fr. Rothrock (or whatever our opinion is), but let’s not rush to judgment until we know the final outcome. I’d guess this is a personnel decision that is not finished.
I am joining all of you who are praying for all the priests of our diocese. Let us turn to prayer, always. Prayer is mightier than any social media will ever be.
Most Holy Mother of God, pray for us.
The Church’s history is contentious. Catholics don’t always agree and sometimes, it is bishops who make the bad choices … like when most of them went over to Arianism. Or when they were selling benefices or other things. And of course the little incident with the illiterate little nobody Catherine of Siena telling the pope what he should do. (How dare she butt in to his business? ) I understand your concerns about charity but you have to believe that God works in the faithful too, this is something the church teaches. We have to follow conscience when it says something is wrong. If you believe this plan is good and will help the diocese, then peace be with you. I do not.
Ah, Bishop Barron: The very embodiment of spineless, effete, clericalism. I am sorry “Prayerful”, but Barron’s type of Catholicism has had its day for the past fifty-plus years and the view from the pews is bleak (and this was before the virus). No, we won’t be baited into going along with his name-calling premise that we are mean-spirited, uncharitable, and unjust. Sticks and stones… That may have worked in the past, but the church is in such dire straits now. The faithful have awoken to the fact that most of their bishops are not willing to lay down their lives for the sheep. And that really hurts! Did not Bishop Barron himself boldly “tweet”, as statues of saints were being ripped down in his own state, that “Vatican II taught that the secular arena belongs to the laity.” He wishes! And his subsequent joining of a statue-protection protest later, after the firestorm he started, proved that even he realized he stepped in it. Live and learn.
Anyway, we faithful laity know we can’t stop Uniting in Heart. Heck, at this point, even the diocese can’t stop Uniting in Heart given the likely legal and financial ramifications of breaking a contract with a secular cash cow. Do we hope it unfetters souls and ushers in a new springtime for the church? Of course! But it couldn’t have gotten off to a worse start as Red Wolf has been expertly chronicling. These are real stories from priests and laity on the inside who are warning that there is something seriously amiss just under the surface of corporate-speak slogans, logos, and platitudes. And the faithful are seriously asking now: what good fruit could grow from a sapling with such sick roots?
Either everything Red Wolf is posting is a lie or there is truth to the posts. And even if there is just a shred of truth to the posts, people of good will cannot be silent. We love Christ’s Bride too much. It would be mean-spirited, uncharitable, and unjust to all the faithful to stay silent.
Nobody wants to be in a position of criticizing things Church leaders do. For one thing, you will always be labelled divisive and uncharitable if you do no matter how justified you are. And our hearts want to love and obey so it hurts to have to speak up. Have you ever had to tell your dad he was doing something that was hurtful? It’s not easy. No one wants to do that. There is a genuine spiritual danger of being angry and uncharitable but there is another spiritual danger of being complacent and turning a blind eye to harmful things. God, help us avoid both of these!
Prayerful, can you explain why you believe UiH is focused on saving our churches? Has that ever been stated? Honest question. the diocese is promoting these ideas that it can be great for a diocese to consolidate tons of parishes and close 75 percent like the article from Detroit. I read that as meaning they want to close, not preserve parishes.
Oh “Prayerful” how funny you are! You give yourself away with these words:
“ Maybe we do need to each identify ourselves & our parish, so when we fail to tithe, & our Churches lose priests, employees, ministries & are forced to close- we can be congratulated for the result of our boycott.”
That was the just what everyone had to do when trying to offer opinions during the UiH “listening “ phase!
Name yourselves – and watch your parish and pastor suffer the consequences!
Well “Prayerful” name YOURSELF! You seem to have so many answers to everyone else’s conscience!
Might make us wonder how close you are to the Vicar General…
Ah…..UniTed in Heart…a modern-day Inquisition.
Nail on the head, Paul, and exactly what I thought when I read this comment. Name ourselves, indeed. Wouldn’t they love to have a list of names to blackball and alienate.
Dishing out the blackballs and alienation is called “Accompanying a Joyful Band of Missionary Disciples” now. It’s all so AMAZING!
The real clue was the obsession with public embarrassment and then the kicker: loss of money!
The two big soul-killers: Love of Self and Love of Money. Every sort of nasty thing flows from these.
For those that may not be aware @ComplicitClergy has Tweeted some relevant posts on their TL regarding the unfortunate situation in our diocese. That account has just under 2300 followers.
Ran across an interesting FB group today. Looks like some people in there are looking to plan a prayerful vigil as well. We should try to coordinate efforts between all interested parties. This group might be a good place to coordinate. Consider joining if you are interested in a prayer vigil for the diocese. https://www.facebook.com/groups/567870360447243
Prayer is essential but it must be combined with action. If the people of the diocese don’t make their voices heard nothing is going to change.
As St Benedict instructs, “Ora ET labora”.
This article should be spread far and wide within the Diocese of Lafayette in IN. I have sent this out to many people, and I encourage others to spread this article to friends and family and co-workers within the diocese. Share it on FB. Post in the Diocese FB page. Anywhere you can think of where it will reach the Catholic Faithful within this diocese. The time for action is now. People NEED to read this and take action. Letters are great, and we should continue sending those as well. And of course, as always, prayer and fasting are so important, so let’s keep praying for our bishop, our priests and our diocese as a whole!
Our bishop must set aside his fear of men and the consequences of confronting the world’s evils and start living the consoling words of Matthew 10:28 –
“Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”
In dealing with the world, the flesh, and the devil, didn’t our Blessed Lord exhort us all, throughout Sacred Scripture, to “Be Not Afraid”? That’s not just a tiresome, overplayed greatest hit from the Vatican II church. It should be a way of life! God either has our collective backs in this earthly life or He doesn’t. What are we going to tell the Lord when living the faith out of season gets tough and He asks us as He asked the apostles in John 6:67 – “…You do not want to go away also, do you?” Will we have the faith to reply and mean it like St. Peter did in the next verse: “…Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life.”
St. Peter’s answer is a line in the sand. It is a direct confrontation to the father of lies, his schemes, and his offspring. And, after the SEAS episode, many of the faithful are now rightly asking: At what point, bishop, are you going to start defending the Truth? At what point, bishop, do you draw a line in the sand like your brother bishop Peter did? If a small, pathetic, ignorant mob can end a priest’s public ministry over at worst “poor word choice”, where does it stop? Does it stop? The faithful are starting to wake up to the fact that, under our current leadership, it will probably never stop. And that is the very definition of letting the wolves overrun the flock.
Pray for our bishop. May he fearlessly seize the graces God wants to abundantly bestow on him to fulfill the duties of his office.
Hate to say it but if the bishop doesn’t even seem to listen to his priests there is little hope he will pay attention to the laity’s resistance to UiH. People simply aren’t vocal enough.
Wrong. God in his Infinite wisdom gave the Laity the POWER OF THE PURSE.
Bishops fear that power when it is governed by the virtue of Prudence to support good shepherds and to withhold support from those who are mere hirelings.
The priests are really suffering but they cannot speak truthfully about UiH. Many of the best pastors have had their positions removed and now have to start all over as associates under the watchful eye of newly assigned pastors. Many of them worked and ministered hard for many years, and now they will have to consider if they want to continue trying to minister under this bishop and UiH restructuring.
Imagine being CEO and all of a sudden starting over in an entry-level position. Experienced pastors treated as if they just came out of seminary. That can’t be good. Not only that most priests will not even be able to look forward to ever becoming a pastor because the number is so small and hand-picked.
On the matter of withholding tithes (i.e., 10% of your income), and other financial support..Please remember we as faithful Catholics have a canonical obligation to provide support for the upkeep of our parishes. That said, realize that unless stated otherwise, the bishop takes ~9% of every donation to a parish. The only way I’m aware of avoiding this is to specify exactly what your contribution should be used for (e.g. electric bill, janitorial, etc.) and/or give it in cash directly to your trusted pastor with a note indicating its purpose. At least in the USA (for now) we have a lot of freedom to determine the amount and where our parish contributions go–not so much in other countries. For instance, in Germany, you declare your religious affiliation to the State, and they automatically take a predetermined percentage of our income before you even see it. It’s no wonder the German episcopate is about the furthest off the rails of late. As a person who tithes, it saddens me greatly that I am now in a position where I feel I have to decide how much and where my parish contributions should go. Our Lady, pray for us!
Yep, earmark your donations. If the parish will not accept this practice, there are plenty of other Catholic priests, orders, and organizations that will put the money to good use.
Aid to the Church in Need is EXCELLENT.
Reducing the number of pastors by almost half not only deprives those priests of their offices and damages clergy morale, it deprives the people of their pastors. UiH will make controlling pastors and parishes easier. Why else are multiple parishes being clustered with only one pastor? One can also speculate that this may lead to only certain compliant priests may be considered as proper pastors.
You do not need to speculate that this may lead to only certain compliant priests being considered as pastors. The diocese straight up said as much a couple months back in the Catholic Moment. It said the main qualification for being considered a pastor for the new pastorates was whether or not they were in agreement with the United in Heart plan. They don’t even try to hide that fact. The exact quote is on this website somewhere in either an article or the comments section, but it is there. You would think they would consider other factors such as age, whether or not they are a current pastor, whether or not they have a thriving parish, or many many other considerations.
You’re saying the diocese is transparent. Others seem to disagree.
I do not think the diocese is transparent about many things with the United in Heart plan, however, they were pretty transparent in letting the clergy know if they were not on board with the plan, they would be demoted, sent to the far corners of the diocese, or forced into retirement (in some cases early retirement). The diocese was also transparent, where they told the laity that priests were chosen to be pastors for the new pastorates based on their willingness to go along with the plan. However, in general, no, I do not believe this diocese has been transparent.
Silver lining to the cloud: Priests forced into early retirement can move elsewhere and request to be incardinated into other (more holy) dioceses, ministries, or ordinariates (Military, is one; the Anglican Ordinariate might be another–their Liturgy is beautiful and their bishop is openminded.)
They could become chaplains in Catholic retirement homes; or (once cruise-lines start up again) chaplains on cruise ships, or on off-shore oil rigs.
Some might want to become private chaplains to wealthy families. Some might want to join religious orders.
Or become hermits. Or write best-selling books!
Or become the missionaries they always yearned to be.
When God shuts one door, He opens another. Please share these ideas with all these good priests who want no part of the UiH Plan, — for they are well worth having elsewhere. Be sure that God still wants them, even if their current bishop doesn’t.
If you know of any person or organisation of residence where a chaplain would be appropriate, contact them with the idea. This blog might even serve as a “matchmaking” site .
This post is the BEST summary I’ve read of the horrors of what is terribly wrong in our diocese.
If we just print this summary and send it to the Nuncio in Washington DC, we are showing HOW our Bishop has broken faith and trust with us.
Yes it’s about suspending Fr Rothrock for not retracting (exactly how the Bishop wanted) a bulletin column.
But above all, this RW post explains that trust in our bishop and his Vicar General is IRRETRIEVABLY broken.
Our Shepherd can no longer effectively shepherd us. We the people of the Diocese of Lafayette-in-Indiana — our trust in our Bishop to shepherd us is IRRETRIEVABLY broken.
THAT’S what needs to be said to the Nuncio and every bishop, priest and deacon we meet.
Sending this to the Nuncio is a great idea. It is an excellent summary.
It probably would be a good first step to write Archbishop Thompson in Indianapolis before we advance it to Washington
Many of us have already written letters to the Archbishop, myself included. We received responses back thanking us for the concern, but more or less saying it is not in his jurisdiction. It is also my understanding (could be wrong, don’t remember where I heard it) that Archbishop Thompson and Bishop Doherty are good buddies.
Just write to them all, there is no time like the present. Before one more good priest gets the ax.
I am praising God for Fr. Ted’s courage, and praying that I will be as courageous as he in whatever we face going forward. After such a disheartening, sickening week last week, I am encouraged and hopeful as people unite in Truth and purpose. Thank you for that! Others are becoming bolder! Bishop Strickland of Texas echoed Fr. Ted’s exposition of Truth; I am pray that many others do the same.
Is Fr. Ted in need of financial support? Is there a way to get mass cards and adoration hour cards to him?
The new diocesan appeal will be underway shortly; the timing could not be better.
Write Bishop Strickland and ask him if he would like to incardinate some fine priests that the Indiana Bishop doesn’t want. “One man’s trash is another man’s treasure”.
I cannot in good conscience stop tithing to my parish.
I can’t hurt the community that offers so many ministries to my family- & those in need.
I also can’t stop supporting the diocese. No matter who the Bishop is- I won’t punish the people in my own diocese who benefit from its ministries.
Without the diocese, my parish wouldn’t exist.
I’ll pray, fast, & send letters. I’ll continue contributing to other Catholic organizations.
Through the years the Catholic Church has been through many trials. I won’t stop supporting my local church to make a statement.
By all means follow your conscience. But know that you may also earmark your donations to your parish and direct them to be used for specific purposes. And you may also support programs within your church by buying supplies, donating materials, paying for expenses directly rather than letting it pass through the parish (and thereby the diocese). Pay the light bill for a month. Donate to the building fund, and specify that your funds are to be used for the carpet, the painting, the renovation of the bathroom, etc. Sponsor a FOCUS missionary in your diocese. Offer to pay for a great Catholic speaker to come to your church. Give money DIRECTLY to seminarian, or to a faithful seminary.
I agree with your instinct to protect & nourish your own… this is human and moral. But understand that supporting and consenting to bad governance does NOT help the people in anyone’s parish in the long run.
Absolutely agree with following one’s conscience. Appreciate your thoughtful response.
My concern is for the poorer, outlying parishes- with parishioners who may not be able to find anything- & who rely on the diocese for support.
For those reasons & many others (priest/parish employee health care & salaries, general operating expenses, numerous ministries, etc), I’ll continue to financially support the diocese & pray.
*fund (not find)
Yes, we should follow our conscience above all things………….if it is well-formed. Therein lies the rub.
I do believe that most of us are just trying to follow our conscience and do what is right. However, I think the situation here can be compared to the parent who worries that his lazy and worthless son will starve or freeze to death if the parent stops supporting the bum. So he continues to give him money out of a kind of soft and well-intentioned compassion; and the son never changes, never repents, never finds his true freedom and dignity.
There is a time to STOP SUPPORTING WHAT IS BECOMING A FETID SWAMP.
There are many creative ways to support small churches and/or retired priests. Find them; help them. Ministries, not so much.
The diocese should get no more money. Period.
Exactly! Why aren’t other ‘good’ priests in this diocese defending their brother priest? Where is their courage to stand for what is right? At this time, suspension should be the least of their worries and actually looked at as a badge of honor from God. We have wolves among us and God is calling the priests and us to choose who we serve. It seems so far, Fr. Rothrock has chosen. Our priests should know Bishop Doherty can’t suspend all of them.
Many want to support their ‘church’ but you don’t have a real ‘church’ if you do not have priests willing to stand for Christ but instead continue the MOdernist/Marxist/homosexual nuchurch that has been created. Political correctness, moral relativism and mercy without justice, which St. Thomas calls dissolution has been enabled by our leaders. PC culture was created for control by Marx and tolerance, no longer speaking of sin, hell or judgement allows for moral relativism. A false unity has been preached because we are told truth divides. It’s time for division.
The church of ‘nice’ is not the church of Christ. Christ told us that we would be hated because He was hated first. We must stand for what is right, true and good. We must stand for Christ and His gospel of true love not false mushy love that has been preached for too long.
I find it ironic that Trump reversed the Johnson amendment that our priests used to excuse their silence at the pulpits because they didn’t want to lose their tax exempt status. Now we see our own bishop silencing his priests. Let’s support those who speak the truth. Let’s support those who have courage to defend Fr. Ted. Let’s support those who put Christ and His truth over politics!
I will not be tithing to this diocese because it sends the message that everything is fine and I agree with with it.
Excellent post, Red Wolf. This is what we needed, and it is certainly a call to action. We wrote our letters before the Fr. Rothrock debacle, but here we stand and more seems necessary. More letters perhaps. More prayers most certainly. But I am curious what more others think we can and should do. I’m tired of watching our priests be micromanaged in this way. They need to be allowed to be our shepherds instead of being suspended, silenced, and threatened for guiding the flock to the truth.
I couldn’t agree more. I have had countless conversations in just the past few days with others, have prayed and fasted. I believe these are strong weapons in this fight but we now need to do more. We need to be heard and we need to put faces to our voices and concerns. Those we oppose are certainly organized and getting there message heard and agenda pushed; we need to do the same. I believe we, as a group -in person, not anonymously, or just through emails, FB or Redwolf
Posts- need to choose a meeting place and time and start getting organized. We need action and we need it now. One practical goal of an initial meeting might be a letter writing session. I am guessing many people avoid writing letters simply because they do not know what to say. That is certainly the case for
me. I would imagine a lot more letters, and a lot more effective letters, would get written in such a situation. I have never been a leader but would be more than willing to arrange for an initial meeting. Please let me know your thoughts, ideas… I am certainly willing to share contact information on this site if that is allowed. Let’s pray nonstop to the Holy Spirit for guidance and strength!!
Michelle Stoyanoff, permitted. Would recommend you share just an email. RW
Thanks! Chinamom822@msn.com
Red Wolf,
There is early planning of prayerful vigils to be held very soon by several groups in the diocese. Also happening, is a procession with prayers and singing of chants and hymns on August 15 at noon. The route would be from the St. Mary’s Cathedral to the Chancery.’There are several groups involved in these actions. Hopefully, they can be combined to show a united front. Everyone is encouraged to become involved. It would be a blessing to see hundreds of people. More specific information will follow soon. Please pray!
God bless all of you.
Lori
We have formed a movement and I have a distribution list activated to hold prayer rosary rallys of unity to defend our Catholic beliefs and support Fr. Ted. If you are interested in joining this movement (name, purpose and objectives soon to be announced, please email me)
Appreciate you keeping us informed, Vicki. Certainly add us to your list:
editor@theredwolfreport.com
What is your email address?
Perhaps some of these prayer rallys could take place in front of the bishop’s home as was suggested by a good friend today. It was also suggested that, perhaps each parish could have a block of time and those of us living in the Lafayette area could fill in any gaps in time due to travel time for those outside the city. Thoughts?
Amazing hard hitting journalism by The Red Wolf Report. There is something very wrong going on in this diocese. The progression of the facts that have led us to where we are has been more shocking every week. I am afraid where we will go from here.
We haven’t even been given a reason why Fr. Theodore Rothrock was removed. Was it merely because of the tone and specific words used in his column? Or was it the message he was speaking? These are very different things, and by not clarifying why he was suspended, it is letting people believe what they want. This is why he is a hero to the supporters of a Marxist organization like BLM. It is weaponized ambiguity.
Are priests going to have to have every article they write in their parish bulletins be approved and/or censored? How about every homily? It feels like this is the direction we are headed with this bishop who seems to feel the need to micro-manage every miniscule aspect of every parish. This is most obvious by the 15+ page lists of what we are allowed and not allowed to do at Mass.
This is probably EXACTLY why he wants to introduce these corporate modeling programs for the diocese, because it makes every parish operate in the same way, under the same structure and guidelines, regardless of location or demographics. This is a micro-managers dream.
Something has to change before this diocese is run into the ground. I don’t feel our bishop represents the laity (or the majority of clergy for that matter) anymore. I certainly don’t feel that he is the chief teacher and shepherd of this diocese as the CCC tells us he should be. What he is teaching us is that it more important to avoid controversy and to placate offended people than it is to speak the truth, and to defend his sheep who speak the truth.
Instead, he throws his sheep to the wolves to keep them happy so they don’t go after him. It is time we stop being afraid of people knowing what we believe, which is Truth. It needs to be spoken, and it needs to be spoken from people in authority, such as priests, bishops, cardinals, and the pope.
It is time for a new leader in The Diocese of Lafayette in Indiana.
“Are priests going to have to have every article they write in their parish bulletins be approved and/or censored? How about every homily? ” Yup. That is exactly what has been decided. They were already going to have to have their homilies looked at, now it will be everything. We might as well start up a banned book index again while we’re at it.
Boy. If the Bishop were God, I think he would have created Adam and Eve with no free will so they couldn’t mess up his plan and embarass him.
The Carmel Against Racial Injustice is a group of 5 people on FB and look at the changes they were able to make. Of course, they have a willing media to get their message out. I wrote letters I support of Fr Ted to the Bishop and I know of 2 friends that did as well. I stopped our final Fruitful Harvest payment and tithing to our parish. I hate to not tithe to our parish, but I believe the only thing that will get this Bishop’s attention is money. Hate to say that, but that’s what I believe. But if only 5 members of CARI could make such a swift change, I would hope we could stop the Uniting in Heart and get Fr Ted reinstated. Threaten to withhold your funds. Sorry, but money needs to talk here.
Our tithe to our parish is only 10 percent of what it used to be…and looks like we’ll cut it in half again. The tithe is becoming less and less an offering at Mass united to Christ on the Cross. It is $$ to be automatically collected from your bank by electronic debit; that way, when churches are irrationally locked by the Bishop , the $$ still rolls in. Are the electronic debits done on Sunday? You gotta be kidding.
Bishop Doherty is anti-parish self identity, he considers his diocese as the only legitimate parish…he has stated so in the Catholic Moment. So, when we reduce our parish tithe, by the Bishop’s logic, we are sending a message to him, not to our Pastor. There are countless places to divert your parish tithe to…the Fraternity of St. Peter is one…and they are always asking for more money to build more housing for their over-crowded Traditional Rite seminary in Nebraska. Courageous Bishops and priests occasionally make the news…their dioceses and parishes could always use more money. There are struggling conservative Catholic news organizations trying to wake us up as a sleeping laity…your money will help them get the word out to more. Fr. Pavone (Priests for Life) comes to mind; when was the last time you heard a priest or Bishop suggest you support them, or suggest you personally witness your Faith at an abortuary, for that matter? Our youth’s spiritual life is being destroyed in colleges; the Cardinal Newman Society promotes Catholic colleges with authentic Catholic catechesis, support it or it’s approved colleges, or FOCUS missionaries within colleges and universities. It’s our belief that money does speak and money directed in these ways will ultimately speak to the salvation of more souls than money directed to dioceses that are complicit in supporting abortion (CCHD), or LGBTQWKSEX lifestyles (BLM).
By the way, the Chief Operating Officer of Carmel Against Racial Injustice, the group that demanded Fr. Rothrock be sacked and whose demands Bishop Doherty immediately complied with, is a social studies teacher at Carmel High School. How would you like him as a teacher for your kids?
I send my parish tithe from my bank account as an autopay. That way you can make changes or cancel whenever you wish. Also, no one sees the information on your bank account.
You can cancel a direct debit ANYTIME you want. The Bishop can’t stop you.
We dud the same. No tithing.
We voted also with our feet snd headed to Archdiocese of Indy
Thank you for what you’ve done. I did the same. I gathered the large rosary prayer rally at Seton on Sunday but now we have an organizing leadership team and will soon announce the name of our movement and its purpose. If you want to get on the distribution list, email me.
What is your email?
I agree wholeheartedly! The Bishop acted just like Judas, when he betrayed Our Lord. You betrayed Fr. Rothrock, and the TRUTH he spoke. If I were a Bishop, I would have been so proud, to know I had such a brilliant, wonderful , Priest, in my Diocese, that had the guts and insight to SEE THRU THESE BULLIES, and speak in such a way, that all would be able to understand exactly what was going on. But you, Dear Bishop, chose to cower and bow to these tyrants. You can never satisfy this gang, they only ask for more. Don’t be surprised if they come after your home, just like the couple in St.Lewis. Because THAT, Dear Bishop, is WHO THEY ARE. Father Rothrock, is a Hero! And he should NOT be PUNISHED. RESTORE HIM TO HIS RIGHTFUL PLACE! After all you told us All , that due to a shortage and retirements, you were short on Priest. Thus the reason we were given , to disrupt every Priest life in this diocese. No, This has been a complete disaster for many. I wish that I did not have to even write these words. But your decision to remove a priest, for speaking THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, WAS THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE CAMEL’S BACK.
I FOR GOT TO SIGN MY NAME: Kathleen Dixon MI
Before the 9:30 Mass at St. Elizabeth Ann Seaton, the Bishop said that all priests are an extension of the Bishop and he never would have written what Fr. Ted wrote, so he had to suspend him to give him and the bishop time together to work through things. I wish there was a video of his message to the parishioners at Seaton.
The written version is up on our website https://www.setoncarmel.org/weekly-message-from-the-pastor/
These were the addresses posted here earlier. We do need to work hard and pray for our Church but reaching out both to the bishop and other leaders with our worries is one thing we can all do.
The Congregation for the Bishops
Palazzo della Congregazioni, Piazza Pio XII,
10, 00193 Roma, Italy
Bishop Timothy L. Doherty, S.T.L, Ph.D.
610 Lingle Avenue
Lafayette, IN 47901
The Most Reverend Christophe Pierre
Apostolic Nuncio to the United States
3339 Massachusetts Ave. N.W.
Washington, DC 20008-3610
The Most Reverend Jose H. Gomez
President of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops
3211 Fourth St. N.W.
Washington, DC 20017
Bishop Gomez’ home diocese address is: 3424 Wiltshire Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90010
You can also send emails on the USCCB.org website.
Laity in a diocese who are stonewalled by a an arbitrary / deceitful / recalcitrant Bishop can appeal to the St Joseph Foundation, a private association of Canon lawyers: educate yourselves on their much needed ministry:
https://stjosephcanonlaw.com/our-team/?issue=volume-313
I know of three people who have written the Bishop in support of Fr. Rothrock, including my wife and I.
Or so inclined please write
I know of three people who have written the Bishop in support of Fr. Rothrock, including my wife and I.
Or so inclined please write
Thank you for all that you shine light on. In prior weeks I have been feeling the Holy Spirit’s call to an increase in prayer and fasting. I kept giving into my weakness and putting it off. After this week I understand the grave urgency. I have not been gifted with an eloquent tongue or much confidence for public postings but my gift for prayer will be put to test!
Best post yet, Red Wolf. Keep it up.
We are in this for the long haul—prayer and fasting are needed. But most of all—action! Prayerful resilience and strength from God will be needed for this journey.