The Idea That Won’t Die.

The Idea That Won’t Die.

Writers sometimes speak of “zombie ideas,” notions and trends which, however terrible they are, just won’t go away.

A recurring question at the diocese is: Should parishes, modelling themselves on the Divine Renovation-inspired plan utilized in places like the Church of the Blessed Sacrament in West Lafayette, be asked to place large electronic viewscreens in their sanctuaries?

For our part, we had thought that perhaps the idea had been put to bed (since these are garish, out-of-touch with liturgical reverence, and of course expensive). But this seems not to be the case, and there are rumblings that a push for the shiny megachurch marvels is back on the table.

Let it never be said that a risible idea passed, friendless and unconsidered, through the halls of our diocese’s chancery. This one–which might have been cribbed straight from a book entitled, “How to Make Your Church Look More Like a Holiday Inn Conference Room in Three Easy Steps,” or “I Have Gazed Slightly to the Side of You in the Sanctuary: How to Make God’s Time into Even More Screen Time”–has apparently been drawn, like a child unto its mother’s bosom, into the Uniting in Heart vision.

But like all the rest of 2020’s misfortunes, The Simpsons weirdly saw it coming, and satirized it as passé, distasteful, and unappealing nearly two decades ago. The lesson, even coming from the yellow cartoon mouth of the secular culture, is plain. Run the Church like a business, throw in some ugly and irreverent gimmicks, and finally, plant large glowing jumbotrons in the sanctuary to hover, gleaming wanly, around the Body of the Lord. Then wonder why people seeking the transcendent presence of God, beauty and authenticity in worship, the sense of timeless adoration once breathed within the silence of the catacombs, turn away with the disillusionment of Lisa Simpson before the worthless spectacle.


56 Replies to “The Idea That Won’t Die.”

  1. Yesterday the Bishop sent a letter telling all pastors not to allow Catholic organizations to operate in their parishes nor for the pastors to market the groups unless the organizations receive the blessing and approval of the Bishop. Apparently one or more has started up that he does not like, Maybe my woman’s bible study? I’ve heard that the Bishop does not like Exodus 90, Knights of the Holy Temple, FOCUS and other groups that have started working in the Diocese and that are so respected and utilized in other places.

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    1. The pharisees and sadducees made up long lists of prohibitions and thou shalt nots and everything the people were not permitted to do. They burdened the people and made life stagnant. Jesus said they of all people were least able to read the signs of the times. These controlling “business bishops” are making critical errors at a time when we can least afford them. Read the room! You fellows, God bless you, do not have every gift needed to take care of the Church. God distributes his gifts where they are needed. If this way of thinking had prevailed in the old days, Jesus would still be in the review process as to whether he could speak in synagogue without proper training and authorization and submitting triplicate copies of his speeches for approval.

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    2. Not to worry, bishop. What’s left of the faithful laity got the message loud and clear last March when you kicked us out of your parishes, locked the doors, and told us the sacraments were less important than following government orders. The One True Faith is now being transmitted at home thank you very much. And, yes, you’re not invited.

      Maybe we’ll see you at mass from time to time when the government gives you permission.

      It won’t be hard to spot us. We’re the only ones left in the pews now.

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  2. Per the first UiH pledge table I’m aware of to date made public, things aren’t looking so hot when compared to this time into past Fruitful Harvest drives. I wonder why?

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  3. Pretty disturbing on a few levels to see our bishop promoting the USCCB’s propaganda regarding the COVID vaccine’s in the current Catholic Moment issue. Just as Bishop Strickland (@BishopofTyler) has noted, these vaccines are not morally derived despite the message the USCCB is pushing–not to mention even adequately tested for safety despite recipients’ being unable to sue the pharma companies for injuries.

    It is now very apparent that Archbishop Fulton Sheen was correct.

    Good resources on the subject:
    Children of God for Life: https://cogforlife.org/
    “Julianne” Twitter handle: https://twitter.com/KindeandTrue/with_replies

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    1. When your bishop is retweeting Cardinal Cupich, that should be a good indication where he leans on the episcopate spectrum. That and the fact that he is on the advisory board of Bernardine’s Common Ground Initiative.

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          1. Annnnd…despite this information, the Vatican reported they’re A-OK with Catholics receiving the vaccine. No problemo! Good grief!

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  4. Unfortunately Catholic faithful may have to resort to establishing their own churches in the U.S. divorced from the hierarchy. In bad situations living separately is often necessary. Find find some good priests willing to lead and diy.

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      1. The Enemy is victorious when we walk away or splinter. We must be vigilant in defending Truth, Sacred Tradition, our Catholic Beliefs. And we must be courageous in doing so. This is the only way

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      2. Fighting for our Mother means making hard decisions. If you have a pope who supports a Global Reset and communism, and many bishops in the U.S. who largely support communism, abortion, and oppose Church teachings, then perhaps the right thing to do is to remove ourselves from their power.

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        1. We understand the grief and frustration expressed here. Orthodoxy (holding to a set body of revealed beliefs) is part of the definition of the Church from its founding. But so is holding to the typological, hierarchical and spiritual roles established by Christ. These are no less optional than our dogmas, and that is why it becomes particularly painful when those roles are abused. A friendly reminder that Red Wolf asks that our site not be used to promote ideas contrary to the Faith. Rather, we ask that readers be relentless in demanding orthodoxy, especially in circumstances when the Church has leaders tempted to depart from it. This is the hill you should die on. As we stated in our post “O Rose Thou Art Sick”: “Where that office is turned against itself in some way, and therefore against the good of the Church as a whole, the Faithful must defend. They must find within themselves the threefold office of priest, prophet, and king, because it was shared with them by Christ’s will and design through the sacraments. It is not for decoration, an ornamental weapon, merely to be cooed about in the prayer group and bible study. It is for use.”

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          1. I agree. But BLIND obedience isn’t the answer either. Those in power must be held accountable and have consequences just like the average lay person in the pew. Funny how the hierarchy have failed teaching most of the core Catholic doctrines for decades EXCEPT obedience to them!

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          2. Blind obedience has been the cause of nearly all of the problems of this country, induced by the desire for comfort over correctness. Even now we use the internet to complain to one another about what we are experiencing in our church and our Government. Understandably so we have to be able to communicate with one another, especially in this day with all the covid restrictions keeping people from seeing one another.
            The next step to correct these issues are the tougher ones and where we usually lose everyone that can help. We have to get out of our chairs and onto our knees and through prayer, fasting and organizing we can overcome these tyrants in our church and our Government. Without that physical effort of praying and sacrificing our time for the greater good we are just blowing hot air through the internet.
            I disagree with a lot of people when I read their rebuttals to the suggestion of withholding funds from the church, when they ignore us in our efforts through letters and emails or forums like these, we must resort to the tactics necessary to get their attention.
            They (the leaders of our church) have taken away from many throughout this country the Sacraments given to us by God in the name of science. We, as Gods children cannot and must not accept this behavior. There has never been a time in the past 2000 years where we have seen this sort of behavior and we have to live in the faith that we are spiritually better off to demand our GOD given right to the Sacraments. They shall not keep us from the rights Blessed on us by God to receive him in the holy Eucharist or be granted his forgiveness through confession. How about the Anointing of the sick in a time like this? The only way to get their attention is monetarily because that is ALL they seem to care about these days, take a look around you UiH ring a bell?? Don’t forget they have no issue with closing a church and turning away the faithful. Making it more and more difficult to attend Mass and receive the Sacraments. What about all the financial sacrifices and sacrifices of time and talents that our ancestors made to build these beautiful churches? They just close them down and toss the sacramentals right out the door. They did this in the 60’s and 70’s too in another way. Then came Abortion, whats next? Euthanasia on a global scale??? Save the vaccines eliminate the elderly??? If you havent noticed, our church leaders and the worlds government leaders have been working pretty tight together, but remember “separation of church and state” yeah unless it benefits the goals of a few.
            Prayer, Fasting, works of Mercy are the tools, that with a little financial squeeze will definitely get the conversation started and maybe he will answer the door the next time a petition is delivered to the Bishops home.
            May the Holy Apostles please join us in prayer for our Bishops and priests!!!

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    1. The Church is where the faithful are. I agree the faithful have a right not to continue in an abusive or one-way relationship.

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        1. No one here has suggested anything like Martin Luther. But clearly these comments show how serious the actions of bishops are devastating the lives of Catholics.

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  5. The sanctuary is a sacred place. It is the holiest place in the church. God dwells there. Screens are not needed in Catholic Churches. We know what to do when we go to Mass. Spend the money and give people their personal Magnificats or the missalettes which have been removed. If screens go up in my beautiful gothic St. Boniface I would be so dismayed. And why harm the beauty of our Cathedral or even the small country churches built by hard working people. No, no screens. As if the diocese isn’t already having enough trouble with raising money, this would surely be another nail in the United Heart which is not really united.

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  6. Congregations will revolt if these screens are put up. I am not advocating violence or destruction of property, but these monstrosities will most certainly be vandalized if they are hung.

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    1. Many parishioners at Blessed Sacrament have revolted and left the last few years … I was one of them and I literally see rows of my old fellow Bless Sac parishioners at St Tom’s. Others have left for St Mary’s and St Ann’s. The huge screens were the last straw for me when the VG was still pastor there. It actually says stand up, kneel, etc. the former pastor wanted the congregation to sing along to sing refrains on the screen in the middle of his homily at times … not my mother’s Catholic Church.

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      1. We need more testimonials like this; True evidence that the “parish reprogramming” path our diocesan leadership is taking is a dead end. If our leadership means to make what’s left of the parishes (after all the coming closures) into West Lafayette’s Blessed Sacrament parish, why not hear more from people that experienced that reprogrammed parish. And I would want to hear both sides too: people that experienced it and love it (and why) and people that experienced it and left it (and why). The “why” of things is always most telling. Then I would like to see “the numbers” for that parish since reprogramming right up to the time of the first Covid-shutdown: Did the parish population grow or decline? Did the parish finances improve or suffer? Are sacramental stats up or down since reprogramming (baptisms, first-communions, confirmations, weekly confessions, marriages)?

        If our diocesan leadership is to be believed, we have an example an “ideal parish” in our diocese now. Why not trumpet its rip-roaring successes with the facts?

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      2. Bl. Sac lost a fifth of their parish. They went from 956 families /2613 persons before they “rebranded” to 809 families/2216 persons after. Nearly 150 households left, so the diocese must be okay with losing 1/5 of their people from now on, either that or assuming that people won’t leave because there is “nowhere left to go”.

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      3. I was one of these parishioners as well. I left and have never went back. I fear they will start to do these things in all of the churches in our diocese.

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        1. They will try. We will resist prayerfully and financially and, if our counsel continues to be ignored, then we will disappear altogether; receiving the sacraments at more worthy parishes. The offensive TV-screens can enjoy looking out over a sea of empty pews for all I care.

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          1. It is my understanding that a consulting firm has been hired to merge parishes and offices in Lafayette and West Lafayette. Many long serving staff across the diocese have already left or been terminated by the consultants leaving parishes and priests with fewer and inexperienced staff at a time when all these priests that have been moved, most need experienced staff to help them.

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        2. Modernism runs on money, not faithfulness to the One True Faith. I hope our diocesan leadership blows all their money on overpaid consultants and stupid ideas like giant TV-screens in the sanctuary overlooking a bunch of empty pews. Every last cent!

          The sooner this diocese goes bankrupt, the better. Then the rats will scatter and all that will be left is Catholicism in all of its terrifying (to the modernist mind) and impoverished glory!

          Come, Lord Jesus.

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        3. Wait, so is this is a consultant firm (not just the pastoral consultants)? Does anyone know the name of the company if this is true? It is concerning if this is going on right now. Jobs are scarce after this hard last year. 🙁

    1. The sheer audacity that these people have to run the Catholic Appeals Ministry after this debacle is absolutely incredible. NOT ANOTHER DIME!!!

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    2. Wow, after reading that, it’s pretty clear that “hearts” aren’t the only thing on fire over at diocesan headquarters: “Accountability on Fire”, “Finances on Fire”, the list just goes on and on…

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    3. The unfolding mess was so bad at the Tipton center that the previous diocesan finance officer resigned as it was all being done behind his back and without his authority. The new officer then spilled the beans on the cover-up. But why don’t we get the audit reports? Which pastors if any got them?

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  7. Gee…that Mr Burns is like the cleric from our diocese — the one who had the Biden-Harris bumper sticker on his flashy red convertible — who came to our parish to tell our priests how they should be doing things.

    Rebranding ourselves is all smoke and mirrors.

    Why don’t they start with rebranding the St Joseph Retreat Center in Tipton?

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  8. Lisa expressed it right “the whore of Babylon” When you start treating the church like an entertainment center you have lost your way. We have lost our sense of reverence before, during, and after Mass.

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  9. If Covid-19 gave me one gift, it was to learn what the Traditional Mass can give to my spirituality which has been taken from me by the Novus Ordo. That is not easy to find in our diocese. How do we find the faithful who are looking for that reverence again? How do we organize?

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    1. It is my opinion that a bishop should take care of all of his flock, not just the novus ordo folks. WE lost our great priest Fr. Christopher Roberts and now we have no priest close enough and willing to offer the TLM for us. Isn’t there a pro or morto populo decree from Benedictine that says a Latin Mass can be said anytime?

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      1. I do not understand what is wrong with a Latin Mass being regularly scheduled monthly in a parish of a Priest capable of offering it. I have had to participate in them and a great preponderance of the participants has been the mature, younger generation who are the future of the Church.

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        1. I DO understand what is wrong with “a Latin Mass being regularly scheduled monthly in a parish” of the diocese. MONTHLY is not good enough. It’s a sop to shut people up. The only Mass that can be called regular is a weekly Sunday Mass at a normal Mass hour. Not in the afternoon. This would be the most important result of the Red Wolf Report. The Novus Ordo Church has been a huge failure. The extremely rare bright exceptions have blinded many people to this. But the exceptions, including our local one, have not caused an increase in such exceptions. In fact, they are being done away with.

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        2. Sean at OLMC launched a survey to gauge interest for the Latin Mass. CUP helped promote this. He saw very favorable feedback. This was delivered to Fr Richard at OLMC and they plan to meet and discuss the possibility of a monthly Latin mass there.

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          1. I’m not that far from OLMC, and I would be there if they start their Latin Mass up. OLOG is a big auditorium without a crucifix and Jesus resides in a “Blessed Sacrament Chapel” in the back.

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          2. It would be nice to have a Latin Mass somewhere in the diocese in a central location so people from all directions wouldn’t have to drive so far. I have never understood since Christ is to be the center of our lives why in some churches you have to search to find the Blessed Sacrament. Shouldn’t it always be at the center? In one church in Madison County I know it is off to the side. The priests get to sit in the center just seems wrong. Guess Christ isn’t the center of some of these churches.

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  10. I will, until my dying day, fight for the return to the Traditions of the true church. The Vat II mass and it’s Protestant trappings cannot provide the deep reverence and adoration found in the Traditional Latin Mass.

    If you research traditional communities and their growth compared to the waning Novus Ordo communities you have to ask what s taking place. We are starting the return of beauty and reverence but in this diocese we will have to fight for the privilege. Pray!

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