Let Your Yes Be Yes.

Let Your Yes Be Yes.

We received multiple queries regarding the bishop’s October 4 column in the The Catholic Moment, “Frequently asked questions to keep in mind during this year’s elections.

A reader writes:

After reading the bishop’s column in the 10-4 -2020 issue of the Catholic Moment, I had several observations. I thought Bishop Doherty was being very selective in what he quoted from Pope Benedict’s 2004 letter. The end of the quote ended with the word proportionate, and he didn’t even bother include the word that followed, reason. It appeared to me that he was using this “cherry picked” quote to give tacit approval for Catholics to vote for pro-abortion candidates. I concluded this from what he didn’t include from Pope Benedict’s letter. He also stated that he was giving Benedict’s “precise” teaching on the matter, even while failing to include the information from the letter that would put it into context. He muddled the entire concept of a “proportionate reason”.

He did not include the very important sentence that states: There may be legitimate diversity of opinion even among Catholics about waging war and applying the death penalty, but not however with regard to abortion and euthanasia. With this guidance, the faithful could have more effectively concluded what a proportionate reason really is. I think it is clear that Pope Benedict did not believe that reasons like health care, climate change, and the death penalty could be considered proportionate reasons to abortion. In fact he specifically rules out that the death penalty could be considered “proportionate” to an intrinsic evil like abortion!

To me, this selective quoting of the Pope is reprehensible. The bishop is misleading, rather than guiding his flock. Bishop Doherty may be included among the ranks of the one third of US bishops that said that abortion is not the preeminent moral issue, as scandalous as that is. It’s too bad that his tolerance for voting for abortion-supporting candidates is much greater than his tolerance for priests that tell the truth.

–MFB

A few thoughts: MFB is correct that USCCB experienced a somewhat heated discussion last year in putting together its document on Faithful Citizenship, with San Diego’s Bishop McElroy leading the charge to deny the issue of abortion its place of preeminence, and instead to lump it in among other social ills. With McElroy rebutted by Archbishop Chaput, who received loud and unconventional applause, the pro-life position remained in its place of importance in the document.

The assertion that the Ratzinger letter allowed for casting one’s vote in favor of a candidate promoting abortion, as long as said candidate aligns with Church teaching on other issues– silly on its face–has already been effectively refuted (see especially pages 7-8 of the linked article where the author explains that voting for a candidate or legislation that poorly reflects Church teaching on the non-negotiable issues is permitted in order to exclude a candidate or legislation that would be yet worse on said issues. Another instance of such permissibility would be situations of moral impossibility, as when a man must cast a vote in a corrupt Soviet election, knowing that a vote for a dictator’s opponent would be meaningless and would cause persecution to his family.)

Yet in spite of all this, we’ve seen the subtle slide by those of McElroy’s persuasion to build an escape hatch against this into their election guidance.

It’s already been noticed, for example that Bishop Joseph Tobin of Newark stated that Catholics could in good conscience vote for a certain Catholic presidential candidate. The latter holds a pro-abortion stance and has just pledged to ensure legal abortion is the law of the land, even in the event Roe v. Wade was overturned. His running mate is heavily funded by the likes of Planned Parenthood and has the distinction of having prosecuted to the enth degree and with unique, discriminatory aggressiveness the journalists who exposed PP’s illegal trafficking in fetal body parts.

Against this backdrop, Tobin’s own thoughts run thus: “I, frankly, in my own way of thinking, have a more difficult time with the other option.” (The full discussion with Tobin can be viewed here.)

Tobin later walked backed his remarks, saying he gave no actual endorsement and merely wanted to remind Catholics of their duties in civic life. When asked by CNA, he declined to say if Catholics could in good conscience vote for the other candidate, but said in his statement:

“A Catholic cannot vote for a political candidate because he or she supports an issue considered an intrinsically evil act, such as abortion, euthanasia, deliberately subjecting workers or the poor to subhuman living conditions or assisted suicide,” the statement said. 

“At the same time” the statement continued, “a voter should not use a candidate’s opposition to an intrinsic evil to justify indifference or inattentiveness to other important moral issues involving human life and dignity.”  

Which brings us to our own diocese, the column in question, and the questions raised by MFB and others.

Let’s be clear that we don’t intend to characterize our bishop as being in league with the above. It seems to us that the problems in the October 4 article had more to do with a lack of clarity in expression; whether purposeful or not, we cannot say.

While it’s likely that at least one omission from the Ratzinger letter was accidental or a copy error (the missing word “reasons”), there’s no doubt that including further clarifying statements from the letter, would have helped greatly since the discussion on proportionality was indeed abbreviated to the point of uselessness.

And therein lies the problem. Catholic voters have decisions to make right now. Perhaps in the rarified air of the USCCB, people pose questions such as those included in bishop’s column, but the average voter does not, and needs more direct guidance. Surely moral philosophy, enlightened by our supernatural knowledge of God, is there to make things more clear, not to obscure them.

Bishop Doherty, quoting Mencken, hinted we should eschew the hope of simple or plain answers. We get it. There are things to weigh and consider in moral reasoning. But does that mean that in doing so we are descending into a hopeless, tangled morass that will take years of study to claw our way out of, as the bishop’s final paragraph seemed to suggest?

If so, then those who have already invested extensive time studying higher-level theology and who have a teaching role in the Church should give the rest of us poor suckers a clear shorthand version.

Again, the main issue that seemed to cause confusion was the discussion (or lack thereof) of “proportionality.” The bishop did clarify that the term does not refer to the outcome, to more good than evil being the result of an action.

Well, that is good, since there is literally nothing we can place on the scale that will outweigh the outcome associated with abortion, in terms of sheer violence, grotesque bloodshed and staggering loss of life caused by this intrinsic evil, to say nothing of the way it harms and corrupts souls, turns parents from their children, making hitmen out of doctors and nurses (to borrow an image from Pope Francis), violates consciences, abuses the reproductive processes of our bodies, excludes a category of persons from the human family and society, usurps the money paid by taxpayers to promote the common good, feeds the sin of greed, exports this evil into developing societies, commodifies and dishonors the bodies of the dead, dehumanizes the disabled, preys on women in dire need, and is entwined historically with the evils of racism and genocide and presently with those of rape and human trafficking. (Should we go on…?)

No, proportionality has to do with having sufficiently serious reasons to, in this instance, cast one’s vote for someone who will protect and expand access to abortion, in order to avoid some other, presumably greater evil.

So let’s have it, then: What is that greater evil? What horror must be averted that looms larger than the deliberate and ongoing mass extinction of the unborn and all the abovementioned wickedness that attends it? What are the reasons grave enough to suffice? Serious question.

The hour is late, and the time for gnostic abstractions has long since passed. We’ve lived in this culture of death for so long that its crimes have receded into the background and become like the wallpaper. We need to speak plainly, even at the risk of oversimplification, of seeming unsophisticated to the world, if we are ever to remove it.

One such no-fluff take is offered by John Mallon in the The Washington Times. Among its many other merits is the fact that he brings together the relevant Church documents in all their blunt, plain-spoken glory, stating:

Catholics should be aware that, yes, you can, and sometimes must, be a single-issue voter when that single issue trumps all others.

The Vatican said: “It must in any case be clearly understood that whatever may be laid down by civil law in this matter, man can never obey a law which is in itself immoral, and such is the case of a law which would admit in principle the liceity of abortion. Nor can he take part in a propaganda campaign in favor of such a law, or vote for it.” (Declaration on Procured Abortion; Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith; Nov. 18, 1974; No. 22, cited by St. John Paul II in Evangelium Vitae, (The Gospel of Life), No. 25, March 1995)

Then it was further clarified: “[T]hose who are directly involved in lawmaking bodies have a ‘grave and clear obligation to oppose’ any law that attacks human life. For them, as for every Catholic, it is impossible to promote such laws or to vote for them.” (Emphasis added. Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Nov. 24, 2002, Doctrinal Note on some questions regarding the participation of Catholics in Political Life.)

The U.S. Bishops stated: “The threat of abortion remains our preeminent priority because it directly attacks life itself, because it takes place within the sanctuary of the family and because of the number of lives destroyed.” (Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship: A Call to Political Responsibility, Nov. 12, 2019, Introductory Letter.)

Like it or not, abortion is now one of the chief issues of this current election. Bishop Doherty is correct that in our country we tend to vote on candidates rather than propositions, but it’s also true that in our system, candidates effectively embody propositions. They are considered to be the reasons why certain propositions and laws will come into being.

So: May a Catholic, knowing full well that a candidate’s stated intention is to protect and promote abortion, cast a vote in support of that candidate? Can the voter support a candidate who is the avatar of abortion on demand, because he might also be the avatar of some other worthy issue? Is the voter off the hook, morally speaking, by clicking his heels together three times and saying, “I’m voting for him, but not because I like all the abortion this is going to lead to, I have other reasons”?

We suggest that everyone so inclined, maybe some of our bishops included, look Christ in the face and see if they feel like giving Him all the complex reasons why they think that answer can be ‘yes.’ Why does it feel that He’ll maybe not just be nodding along in agreement?

Christ is merciful. There are delicate things to negotiate within moral theology, but there are also simple truths, and maybe He doesn’t require the average man to crawl through mazes of legalese and to faceplant in exhaustion each night upon the pages of Germain Grisez to know that it’s not possible to place your support behind those who have openly pledged to promote evil acts–irrevocable, unjustifiable, evil acts that fall within the category of the “non-negotiables”–without sharing in those acts in your own way.

Priests and bishops, we ask you to be clear and unequivocal in your leadership on this matter. Fellow laymen, we ask you to be diligent in your duty as citizens whose real homeland is above. Let’s keep each other accountable in this always.

This evening, let’s put these concerns into the hands of Our Lady of Victory, Our Lady of the Rosary, on this her feast day.


28 Replies to “Let Your Yes Be Yes.”

  1. While a faithful Catholic voting for the current “Left” (at least at the federal and higher state levels) would be a vote against life, what if one argued that voting for the current “Right” at those same levels may also be problematic when one weighs the words and promises made vs. the actual outcomes (or lack there of)? When one votes, one essentially is giving consent to that candidate. Should one give consent to someone who says he is pro-life while abortions and funding for those committing the abortions have actually risen during his administration? Should one give consent to someone who says he will bring justice to those high-ranking politicians who did unspeakable things, but has yet to bring any charges or arrests?

    As easy as one thinks it should be for a faithful Catholic to vote “Right”, it may actually be neither “Left” nor “Right”. Sure, in 2016 every pro-life person voted “Right”–whether or not one had to hold their nose for a less-than-morally-ideal candidate who spoke of many promises that aligned with our faith and pro-life beliefs. But much has transpired in the world since then.

    Personally, I cherish my right to vote and appreciate the sacrifices of many that have permitted me to have that right. However, we are in strange times now–both in our Church and in the secular world. In fact, one may even be remiss not to believe that we are clearly in the times that several messages in approved apparitions spoke of. That said, faithful Catholics might do best to be very cautious to whom they give consent to by way of their vote–regardless of party or promises.

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    1. Good points, I agree with a lot you said, especially because of our always tending to look for a “secular savior.” 🙁 We can’t trust any party or politician absolutely, they all have to be made accountable, but the concern here was when bishops seem to imply that we can support ones that promote things that we know serious evils. Or at least state their teaching in a way that leaves people with that impression. That’s a big problem that stands alone, no matter what happens with this or any other election, because Jesus left them to teach and guide us and we need to be able to look to them and trust them. There are some that I really appreciate, and thanks to the internet we have access to their teaching, like Bishop Paprocki in Springfield who took the time to explain what exactly “material cooperation” is when it comes to voting. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XB7OhVH5dc)

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      1. Wow! Beautiful video and awesome, concise refresher of some very relevant principles of our Catholic faith. Thanks for posting it! While I agree with what the bishop noted (couldn’t really be Catholic if I didn’t), I would add that actions speak louder than words. That’s why in my OP, I noted that while some may talk-the-talk, the current state of affairs (e.g. increased PP funding and abortions) under the current administration along with other concerning inaction in addressing other pro-life spectrum issues also smacks one in the face when deciding who (if any) a Catholic voter is going to give his/her consent by their vote.

        1. Unfortunately, there has been an increase in abortion and dollars to Planned Parenthood, but that can hardly be blamed on the current administration. On the contrary, the administration has worked to reduce them by expanding the Mexico City Policy, cutting Planned Parenthood’s Title X funding, appointing pro-life judges, and defunding the UN’s Population Fund.

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  2. I think out of respect we should pause comments on this site. Apparently a priest in the diocese passed away yesterday. Let us pray for the soul of Father Christopher Roberts and prayers for his family,friends and the parishioners of St.Paul of Marion,Indiana. May the mercy of God may he Rest In Peace, Amen.

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    1. We were very saddened to hear of his passing, and would ask all readers please to take a few moments today to pray the Rosary for this intention.
      “Go forth, Christian soul, from this world in the name of God the almighty Father, who created you,
      in the name of Jesus Christ, Son of the living God, who suffered for you,
      in the name of the Holy Spirit, who was poured out upon you,
      go forth, faithful Christian.

      May you live in peace this day,
      may your home be with God in Zion,
      with Mary, the virgin Mother of God,
      with Joseph, and all the angels and saints.”

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      1. If I’m not mistaken, he was the only priest in our diocese still celebrating the extraordinary form of the mass. I will be offering this evening’s rosary for the repose of his soul.

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        1. There is at least one other priest who knows how to offer the traditional Mass, but Fr. Roberts was the only one who did it with some regularity. Eternal rest grant him, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon him.

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  3. At the fall USCCB meeting which discussed whether they should reword their document so abortion was not “pre-eminent”, Cupich and McElroy argued for this. Nauman, Strickland, Chaput held the opposite. The choice was about including more verbiage from Pope Francis that would basically sound, for the purposes of the Bishops’ document, like abortion is on the level of numerous other political issues. 69 bishops wanted to that but 143 didn’t in the vote. It would be interesting to know how our Bishop chose to vote. Did you stand up for kids being killed, Bishop Doherty? Did you want that to be a priority or not?

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  4. Fr. George Rutler was a giant help to me in the last presidential election because of his plain speaking of the TRUTH about moral decisions in voting. Still true today!
    “For ethical and aesthetic reasons, there may be some bad in certain candidates, but badness consists in doing bad things. Evil is different: it is the deliberate destruction of truth, virtue and holiness.
    While one may pragmatically vote for a flawed candidate, one may not vote for anyone who advocates and enables unmitigatedly evil acts, and that includes abortion. “In the case of an intrinsically unjust law, such as a law permitting abortion or euthanasia, it is therefore never licit to obey it, or to ‘take part in a propaganda campaign in favor of such a law, or vote for it'” (Evangelium Vitae, 73).”
    https://voxcantor.blogspot.com/2016/11/father-george-w-rutler-on-voting-for.html

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    1. from the same article: ” At one party’s convention, the name of God was excluded from its platform and a woman who boasted of having aborted her child was applauded. It is a grave sin, requiring sacramental confession and penance, to become an accomplice in objective evil by voting for anyone who encourages it, for that imperils the nation and destroys the soul.

      It is also the duty of the clergy to make this clear and not to shrink, under the pretense of charity, from explaining the Church’s censures. Wolves in sheep’s clothing are dangerous, but worse are wolves in shepherd’s clothing. While the evils foreseen eight years ago were realized, worse would come if those affronts to human dignity were endorsed again. In the most adverse prospect, God forbid, there might not be another free election, and soon Catholics would arrive at shuttered churches and vacant altars. The illusion of indifference cannot long be perpetuated by lame jokes and synthetic laughter at banquets, for there is handwriting on the wall. “

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  5. “Let’s be clear that we don’t intend to characterize our bishop as being in league with the above. It seems to us that the problems in the October 4 article had more to do with a lack of clarity in expression; whether purposeful or not, we cannot say.”  Obviously you do not remember the 2016 election when the stakes were just as high as now…Clinton and Biden are both of the same immoral stripe.  Bishop Doherty in the CM, asked us to read an article in America magazine by Bishop McElroy which morally equated immigration and abortion.  

    Where are our bishops lobbying for moral laws at the state and federal level?  
    The bishops have been silent or pushing the seamless garment and the corporal works of mercy for years.  The USCCB is the democratic party at prayer as they echo many of the same themes the Democrats do.  The Democrats make sure they increase spending for poverty while increasing poverty.  The Cloward Piven strategy was to collapse the capitalist system by increasing poverty.  Seems they’ve been doing that for a long time while providing cheap labor to global businesses, while we pay for housing, school and medical for the ‘poor’ they intentionally brought in from around the world through refugees and open borders.

    The Catholic faith is the fullness of Truth but it has been used by leaders for another objective.  Their promotion of the corporal works of mercy without preaching the spiritual works of mercy has created the emaciated Church of ‘nice’ and the culture we now live in.  Moral relativism and pc culture started within the church.  It has purposely been enabled to weaken America to bring about globalism or a new world order.  We now hear the leader of the UN and our own pope calling for a global reset.  We see our pope in agreement with China while being silent on the takeover of Hong Kong and ignoring Cardinal Zen!!  These are both incredibly evil and yet nothing is said.  Where are our bishops?  
    Recently, they’ve been busy filing for PPP money while their churches were closed and received at least 3 billion from our tax dollars to keep their ‘business’ going, now they want daddy gov’t to give them more money for ‘security’ while they preach false unity.   WE ARE RESPONSIBLE if we do not hold our leaders accountable.  When we stand before God we will have to give an account.  God help us!  The Eucharist is not protected when the leaders do not teach the Truth.  The bride of Christ is not protected when the leaders do not speak the truth as immorality increases and we now see we are losing our religious liberty.https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/supreme-court-declines-to-hear-appeal-by-kim-davis  Meanwhile, our bishops keep lobbying for government money! UGH!
    We need to reclaim our Church and our faith.  We must call a spade a spade and recognize the rotten organization the bishops have created under our noses.   We must demand leaders willing to speak the full truth from the pulpits and not just to a target audience.  
    We must demand our bishops and priests proclaim the full gospels as Fr. Altman does.  Effeminate men or men with an agenda to change the church must be called out and held accountable.  Charity when someone is doing evil is not charity but complicity with evil.   We need men to proclaim the full gospel and hold leaders accountable in both the church and the gov’t.  We are woefully lacking due to comfort and wealth.  We can’t buy our way out of the situation we find ourselves in but we can take a stand for the good.  This is a perilous time in America’s history!  Obedience to evil is itself evil so all must speak out against the immorality we see in both church and state!  Bishop Doherty’s ambiguous writing is intentional and we’ve seen ambiguity has allowed for evil to continue!  As we know ‘clarity is charity’!

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    1. Good point about our diocese (and many others) applying for the PPP money from the government when the China virus broke out. Our diocese went above and beyond what was required during the shutdowns, preventing access to the sacraments that they were allowed by the state mandates to give, and then keeping us locked out of our churches longer than required when the shutdown ended. All the while during this time they applied to receive government money.

      They wouldn’t have needed to receive government money if they’d have kept the churches open as long as they legally could, and then continued to give sacraments when/where they could during the shutdown.

      Now that our diocese has received a handout from the government, I fear we are now in the governments pocket. This is exactly why the good Catholic universities do no take government money, because when they do, they are required to follow certain rules, regulations, make changes to curriculum, etc…

      I fear it will now be a lot easier for the government to force or require changes, or to prosecute a priest for content in a homily, because our churches are now partially bought and paid for by the government.

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  6. With Father Ted’s now (in)famous columns, he would write about 45 times a year, accounting for vacations and double bulletins for Holidays. I’d say 43/45 were clear and refreshing, with an occasional “mail it in” or repeat from a previous year. Contrast that with the Bishop, with about 26 issues, he writes a column about 22 times per year. He is the exact inverse of Father Ted, with only 1-2 per year where I say “well said”. Add in the fact one of my daughters begged me to never have to listen to another homily of his again during “this Bishop says Black Lives Matter” weekend at the Seton Circus, and I feel more blessed that we have priests and deacons who are very clear in writing and preaching. Deacon Lunsford at OLMC this weekend had an awesome one where he was clear that abortion is primary in voting, and he even mentioned the beautiful but nearly-lost teaching of Subsidiarity. Most Bishops are in the Solidarity camp, and forget the countervailing idea of Subsidiarity, kind of like leaving out “reasons”.

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    1. I recommend not identifying good clergy by name on this site. The Enemy is in our camp now and heavily influencing and oppressing our leadership; a leadership inclined to shoot at anything that moves if it suits them. For the sake of our good clergy and for the souls they may yet still save, it’s best to keep them anonymous until they themselves are ready to go full-Rothrock. Consider this good preparation for Catholic life if the socialists ever take over the country and all-out persecutions begin in earnest.

      In these evil times, the faithful must live the words of our Blessed Lord:

      “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves.” – Matthew 10:16

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      1. I can’t agree. I think we should not shrink from praising those who are praiseworthy, and the larger point being God has blessed us with many wonderful clergy here, but my experiences with Bishop Doherty are unfortunately that he is the least impressive I’ve heard or read in our Diocese, so I just find that contrast interesting. Two of my previous parishes were Cathedral parishes and those (Arch)bishops were also clear in their writing and preaching. Maybe I just caught a bad homily from the Bishop, but it reminded me of his writing in his newspaper.

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        1. I agree! I’m sure Deacon Lunsford’s homilies are taped so the ‘enemy’ can hear what he says as well. If more people spoke the truth about who actually speaks up and who does not, we may know who is and is not a wolf in Shepherds clothing.

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          1. Oh, just wait until you and Deacon Lunsford experience the next phase of Uniting in Heart’s AMAZING parish reprogramming scheme: Corporate Approved Homilies! That’s right! Very soon, no priest or deacon (and, who knows, maybe even the bishop) will ever have to worry about preparing homilies again! In fact, they’ll be forbidden under pain of…um, I mean “highly discouraged” from ever delivering an original (and especially orthodox) homily that hasn’t been approved by UiH’s Church Resiliency and Planning committee (or C.R.A.P. for short). Homilies will be purchased…um, I mean “prepared” in advance and given an AMAZING stamp of approval by the highly competent staff of C.R.A.P. who will also “make sure” there are no deviations from the scripts…um, I mean “homilies” by uppity clergy who think that, just because they went to seminary and studied homiletics and have been a holy, faithful member of the clergy in good standing for decades, they know a thing or two about preaching.

            Just imagine, anywhere you go in the diocese, you’ll hear the same homily: Same themes, same topics, same mini-movie projected on the new sanctuary TV screens about how somebody overcame something thanks to someone. Same. Same. Same. Totally AMAZING, right? The wonders of Uniting in Heart never fail to inspire! Our clergy, and whoever’s left in the pews or occasionally watching online while they woof down their Fruit Loops, are in for a real AMAZING treat!

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    2. “he even mentioned the beautiful but nearly-lost teaching of Subsidiarity”

      UiH dismantled another beautiful and wise teaching of the Church. It seems the Church is following the rest of the world in becoming frighteningly centralized.

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  7. Servant of God Dorothy Day, the wonderful convent to the Faith, social activist, journalist, and writer understood about the bishops. Here’s what she said at the age of 70:

    “As a convert, I never expected much of bishops. In all history, popes and bishops and father abbots seem to have been blind and power-loving and greedy.

    “I never expected leadership from them. It is the saints that keep appearing all through history who keep things going.

    “What I do expect is the bread of life and down through the ages there is that continuity.”

    I’d love to get her take on the shenanigans of our bishop, his vicar general, and the misuse of $9,000,000 (!) to renovate a building (St. Joseph Retreat Center) that should have been demolished.

    $9,000,000 from our pockets. $9,000,000 in Tipton.

    Dorothy Day was right. The “bread of life…down through the ages…” is what a bishop should offer as a plan for his people.

    Unfortunately the current bishop (and we presume his staff) by their actions and disregard for the flock, show they don’t believe the Bread of Life meets the needs of our modern age.

    With Uniting in Heart — no matter what the people (and their abused priests) think, the bishop and staff show they think holding on to the Bread of Life is simply an embarrassing memory from the past — a nostalgia but not the Heart of the Church.

    Dorothy Day pray for us!

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  8. I have stopped reading CM long ago. The laity of this diocese are not in the same universe as this bishop. The verbiage is and has been balderdash, leaving the reader in puzzlement as to what they have read, never knowing the answer.

    This verbal game playing is demonic and used to and end, Leaving a way out for these hirelings to say we’ve misread or just are not educated enough to know what was meant.

    The mincing of words may cloud the truth and give the bishops a big boost of pride, but we simple people do in deed know the truth… thou shalt not kill! As the bishops sit and miserly look at their declining coffers we will continue to pray for their conversion!

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  9. The verbal gynmnastics that bishops play during presidential elections to give a pass to voting for pro-abortion candidates is ridiculous and scandalous. It seems to me, personally, a clear indication of where their political allegiance lies. If a bishop, any bishop, can’t come out and say clearly that a Catholic can’t vote for a candidate that supports abortion, then I lose respect for that bishop. I then tend not to pay attention to anything else that bishop might say, I don’t trust him. I rarely read our bishop’s column in the CM for that reason. There are few bishops in this country who speak clearly when it comes to this crucial election. And as in most things that involve bishops these days, Follow the money.

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    1. I agree with “Not Stupid” on all he says. however, I have started to pay attention to our bishop’s column, only to know why I no longer respect him. And I must say, I do not take pride that I can no longer respect him. In fact, it is with great sadness, and with a feeling of being an orphan in my own “home” to say that about our bishop, and even our Pope and the Hierarchy. I feel like a stranger in this Church I chose as my own 53 years ago and still love, although it feels like it was put in an evil slumber all those years ago. God’s Will be done now and forever.

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    2. Exactly, NotStupid. It’s not hard. Not rocket science. There are many ways we can violate human dignity but nobody is more at risk than the person who has absolutely no rights, no recognition as human, and who can be horribly killed at any moment while having done absolutely nothing wrong. It’s bad to pay people less than living wage, to harm the environment and maybe even to execute some convicted murderers, but NONE of those situations are as drastic and widespread and accepted as what happens to the unborn. I don’t understand why our Bishops do not seem to see that or are not able to make themselves say it! It makes them look like they don’t actually believe it is that wrong at the end of the day. You ACT what you believe. 🙁

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